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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Group A touring car series  Reply with quote

Hello everybody.  I've played this idea before and I'm going to actually give it a more serious try this time.

I put up a post about it on my tumblr and I'm basically just going to copy paste it into here and see what you all think.

Hey if anybody wants to help me out I'm trying to make a "classic" touring car series from when group A was king of the circuits. And I'm making this series in forza 4 so I want as much info for the car as possible so i can play with the rules.
I was thinking about doing a variety of things with this.  1 being that there would be two classes, 1 would be group A cars and 1 would be group N cars.

Or, make 1 class as Classic group A machines, and the other being more modern touring cars (BMW, Honda, ETC ETC).  At that point Id be more willing to group together A and N classes into its own entity for such a series as Id want to showcase as much from that era as possible.

So if anyone could help me in compiling a list of Group A touring cars Id appreciate it.  It would end up being in Forza motorsport 4 so the cars would have to be in that game or a case be made to use a car in that game as a proxy of 1 of the actual touring cars.

Also the ruling Id want to have for these touring car races is similar to the modern racing rule.  AKA short amount of laps (about 15-20), 3 heats of races, 1 with the quali order the same and then reversed on the next heat, and then the lottery one where everyone gets a number and the person whos number is picked starts as first and then the order goes down that way.

Also, any car that wins a race would then get a grip or power reduction.  I would rather do ballast but theres not an incredible easy way to do that.

List that I can think of so far:

Ford Sierra Cosworth
Volvo 242 Turbo
Mercedes 190E Cosworth 2.5 evo 2
E30 BMW M3


And thats all i can think of so far.  I know a FWD civic and golf were in the N class, along with the M3 (i think), and i know the old Jag XJS was in it as well.  Unfortunately I dont believe the civic from that time is in forza 4, and maybe 1 could make a case to use 1 of the other jags already in the game (e-type maybe).  Same with the civic as they do have the EK and EG civics. as well as newer ones.

Lastly, at the end of the day I want it to still be competitive amongst them all as well, and I would try very hard to make all the cars work.  And if I gotta drop one i gotta drop one (hopefully that one not being somethign that was an obvious contender in the series (sierra cossie)).

So please heeeelp me :3
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Along with that small tiny list on the first post, another friend has jumped in to send me more:

Fiat 131 Abarth
Alfa romeo 155 Q4
Ford Mustang Fox body
Lancia 037 Stradale
VW Scirroco S
Toyota AE86 Trueno
Toyota Celica Supra
Volvo 850 R
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nice idea.

I recommend you lean towards any NON DLC hopefully that wont limit choices by too much, however.  The more cars on the list that are non dlc the better chance we might accept a few since it wont be limiting people's choices and they can always get the car pack.  The other consideration though is that dlc cars have a default graphic that is not always accurate in terms of the size of the car and you can hit people unexpectedly so the less DLC the better.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to take a look right now as I know how annoying it is to race against the indestructible VW bora.

The only DLC cars that are on the list are the 1981 scirocco S and sadly the Volvo 850R also known as the turbo brick.

Which is sad because i like those two cars.  It's possible to replace the scirocco with a MK1 or MK2 golf GTI, and the 242 turbo obviously can fill the spot of the turbo rectangle.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay so here is the improvised list of cars.

Group N:

1991 BMW M3 PI: 538
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex PI: 539
1992 VW Golf GTI 16v Mk2 PI: 554
1994 Honda Civic 1.5 VTI PI: 559

Group A:

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth PI: 625
1984 Toyota Celica Supra PI: 626
1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution 2 PI: 631
1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec PI: 654
1992 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 PI: 664

I have them all set up on my storefront, so if you would like to try them go ahead.  I didn't tune any of them while I was fixing up the builds (besides a small amount of gearbox tuning as some of those gearboxes were horribly hard to drive). So go ahead and tune them up and please let me know if there horribly unbalanced or something so that I can change them up a bit.

I also drove them all on Road Atlanta and I will be driving them on different tracks so please go ahead and take em to different tracks.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE:

The alfa, skyline, and Sierra cosworth were all changed round a bit, there all on my storefront so check em out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny the Alfa 155 q4 is also dlc
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